@solderandchaos I think there's extra rules though - like it's only obligatory to say hello to the first person in a group, and very strange to say hello to someone when you're within sight of a car park.

@yaxu @solderandchaos the extra clusters of people/climbers/turds that you see within sight of the car park are what i call the "popular end effect" (named after Stanage). And you're right, there are indeed extra rules.

@solderandchaos @drj I think it's awesome that there's more diversity now though, it was very white pre-covid. Having more people in the countryside is good overall. The levels of littering during lockdown were awful but have improved a lot since I think. It's a bit annoying how the University has promoted specific areas to students though - specifically Bamford Edge which seems to get mobbed by them.