Unless they are being held hostage in some way, I truly do not understand people who willingly choose to work at Meta/Facebook. I mean, could be worse, could be Oracle, I suppose?
@codinghorror Wealth and power are a helluva drug.
@codinghorror plus if I was there I'd refuse to call it anything but Facebook. Twitter is still Twitter. Google is still Google. etc
@codinghorror or google or microsoft or.....
@codinghorror There are many people in this world who couldn't care less about the big picture. They will tell you that they alone can't make a difference and if they don't grab the opportunity, someone else will, so they'd rather ride the gravy train.
@codinghorror I read the book by Sarah Wynn-Williams recently.
tl;dr - I realised quite early how evil everyone was, but money. Then they fired me anyway, the monsters.
@codinghorror I think there are three main types:
- People who use Meta / Facebook / Insta, think that the product to consumers offers good ROP ("return on privacy")
- People ambivalent to Meta / Facebook, but don't have a moral or ethical problem with working for something that lots of people love.
- Bounty hunters that will do whatever for money
@codinghorror Same as working for ICE, the State Department in your country, your country's armed forces while deployed overseas,... your will is always conditioned by your context.
@codinghorror Existential nihilism, seems very popular now.
@codinghorror
Ehm... Feeding your family is much more immediate and important to most people than the vague masses of other people. It's not inhumane, it's practical. I dislike these companies and I have never entertained an option to work for them, but I also had (past tense) other options. I chose a company that had values I believed in and then they were acquired by a big faceless uncaring multinational profit cruncher. At some point, there aren't many options.
@ghosttie
@infosec812 @ghosttie highly debatable; these companies (Meta, for example) have VERY difficult, extremely strict, intensive interview processes.. if you have the skills to get past that, you likely could get hired at a lot of other tech companies or startups.
@codinghorror @infosec812 @ghosttie 100% this. The people working at companies like Meta are not the ones who have no alternatives. They’re decidedly not the ones with three low-paying jobs full of daily abuse and no healthcare, trying to survive. Many could literally choose where to work. It might result in a mild inconvenience at worst. They chose the likes of Meta. That’s what’s confounding. The wilful ignorance.
@deepfryed it's wildly overrated in my experience, also not very fun
These people have none to share. Life is a 0-sum fuck or be fucked experience.
Humanity, society, a common shared future, you say?
Nah.
Can't loose what you never had. If the Walking Dead was an allegory for the rapid dissolution of western society these Meta/Palintir/FB/Google cube jockies would be the faceless hordes between you and the Neegans in the board room.
@OvertonDoors @Philip treat them like people who work for tobacco companies, or alcohol companies, or.. the sackler family
@alfabravoteam exactly the same? how much the same? Everything is exactly the same?
@caleb yeah, I thought about putting them in this list for sure
@piersb best thing they ever did for anyone is fire them
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@Thebratdragon number one question: how monstrous is the leadership? I think Zuck and Ellison are WILDLY more evil than the others. Like, it isn't even close.
thiel, he is by far the worst of the lot.
@Thebratdragon oh god Thiel is an absolute monster. Yes.